About us
"Wisdom and Woe" is a philosophy and literature discussion group dedicated to exploring the world, work, life, and times of Herman Melville and the 19th century Romantic movement. We will read and discuss topics related to:
- Works of Herman Melville: Moby-Dick, Clarel, Bartleby the Scrivener, Billy Budd, The Confidence-Man, Mardi, reviews, correspondence, etc.
- Themes and affinities: whales, cannibals, shipwrecks, theodicy, narcissism, exile, freedom, slavery, redemption, democracy, law, orientalism, Zoroastrianism, Gnosticism, psychology, mythology, etc.
- Influences and sources: the Bible, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Milton, Cervantes, Dante, Emerson, Kant, Plato, Romanticism, Stoicism, etc.
- Legacy and impact: adaptations, derivations, artworks, analysis, criticism, etc.
- And more
The group is free and open to anybody with an interest in learning and growing by "diving deeper" (as Hawthorne once said of his conversations with Melville) into "time and eternity, things of this world and of the next, and books, and publishers, and all possible and impossible matters."
Regarding the name of the group:
"There is a wisdom that is woe; but there is a woe that is madness. And there is a Catskill eagle in some souls that can alike dive down into the blackest gorges, and soar out of them again and become invisible in the sunny spaces."
(Moby-Dick, 96)
"Though wisdom be wedded to woe, though the way thereto is by tears, yet all ends in a shout." (Mardi, 2.79)
"The intensest light of reason and revelation combined, can not shed such blazonings upon the deeper truths in man, as will sometimes proceed from his own profoundest gloom. Utter darkness is then his light.... Wherefore is it, that not to know Gloom and Grief is not to know aught that an heroic man should learn?" (The Ambiguities, 9.3)
"The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth." (Ecclesiastes 7:4)
Upcoming events
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Redburn: His First Voyage - Herman Melville (week 1)
·OnlineOnlineNOTE: Click on "Read more" to see the entire meetup description and links.
Wellington Redburn is a fifteen-year-old from New York who dreams of following in the footsteps of his deceased father. He sets out on a voyage to England, but is quickly confronted by the bitter demands of ship life, the abject horror of poverty in Liverpool, and revelation of the world's moral depravity.
Inspired by Melville's own coming-of-age aboard a cargo ship, Redburn (1849) is a confessional tale of lost innocence. As he gradually awakens to an understanding of evil, "Redburn comes to realize that not only is his earthly father lost forever, but that there is no spiritual father to look after the welfare of mankind either." (John Bernstein)
But the novel is also "arguably [Melville's] funniest work" (according to Hester Blum), a fascinating sea journal in its own right, and understated by Melville himself to be "a plain, straightforward, amusing narrative of personal experience... no metaphysics, no conic-sections, nothing but cakes & ale."
Note: This meetup will be recorded for private use.
Week 1: Chapters 1-22
Week 2: Chapters 23-42
Week 3: Chapters 43 -62Redburn:
Supplemental:
- Noetic podcast with Jonathan Cook
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
18 attendees
Redburn: His First Voyage - Herman Melville (week 2)
·OnlineOnlineNOTE: Click on "Read more" to see the entire meetup description and links.
Wellington Redburn is a fifteen-year-old from New York who dreams of following in the footsteps of his deceased father. He sets out on a voyage to England, but is quickly confronted by the bitter demands of ship life, the abject horror of poverty in Liverpool, and revelation of the world's moral depravity.
Inspired by Melville's own coming-of-age aboard a cargo ship, Redburn (1849) is a confessional tale of lost innocence. As he gradually awakens to an understanding of evil, "Redburn comes to realize that not only is his earthly father lost forever, but that there is no spiritual father to look after the welfare of mankind either." (John Bernstein)
But the novel is also "arguably [Melville's] funniest work" (according to Hester Blum), a fascinating sea journal in its own right, and understated by Melville himself to be "a plain, straightforward, amusing narrative of personal experience... no metaphysics, no conic-sections, nothing but cakes & ale."
Note: This meetup will be recorded for private use.
Week 1: Chapters 1-22
Week 2: Chapters 23-42
Week 3: Chapters 43 -62Redburn:
Supplemental:
- Noetic podcast with Jonathan Cook
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
10 attendees
Redburn: His First Voyage - Herman Melville (week 3)
·OnlineOnlineNOTE: Click on "Read more" to see the entire meetup description and links.
Wellington Redburn is a fifteen-year-old from New York who dreams of following in the footsteps of his deceased father. He sets out on a voyage to England, but is quickly confronted by the bitter demands of ship life, the abject horror of poverty in Liverpool, and revelation of the world's moral depravity.
Inspired by Melville's own coming-of-age aboard a cargo ship, Redburn (1849) is a confessional tale of lost innocence. As he gradually awakens to an understanding of evil, "Redburn comes to realize that not only is his earthly father lost forever, but that there is no spiritual father to look after the welfare of mankind either." (John Bernstein)
But the novel is also "arguably [Melville's] funniest work" (according to Hester Blum), a fascinating sea journal in its own right, and understated by Melville himself to be "a plain, straightforward, amusing narrative of personal experience... no metaphysics, no conic-sections, nothing but cakes & ale."
Note: This meetup will be recorded for private use.
Week 1: Chapters 1-22
Week 2: Chapters 23-42
Week 3: Chapters 43 -62Redburn:
Supplemental:
- Noetic podcast with Jonathan Cook
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
11 attendees
Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth - Carl Jung
·OnlineOnlineThe Symbols of Transformation (1912) represents a milestone in the rupture between Freud and Jung. Concluding that sexual desire is inadequate as a universal explanation for neurosis, Jung rejects Freud's "so-called Oedipus complex with its famous incest tendency." Instead he theorizes "a 'Jonah-and-the-Whale' complex, which has any number of variants, for instance the witch who eats children, the wolf, the ogre, the dragon, and so on."
The defining feature of this complex is the subject's irrational desire to regress to the safety of the womb, distinguished from Freud's Oedipus as a non-sexual reunion with the mother. But Jung's myth is also distinguishable by its optimistic (rather than tragic) resolution. Just as Jonah's internment in the belly of the whale incites repentance and restores his relationship with God, so the neurotic subject--through a radical confrontation with one's inner darkness--may gestate a profound psychological emancipation and "rebirth."
For Jung, then, religion is not a mere fugitive of Enlightenment rationality (ala Freud), but a custodian of symbolic stories to facilitate self-realization, constructively channeling instinctual forces into vital civil and spiritual purposes.
In "Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth" (Part 2, chapter 5 of The Symbols of Transformation), Jung uses his case study of "Miss Miller" to analyze maternal imagery and motifs, and elaborates his theory of the "Jonah-and-the-Whale complex."
The Symbols of Transformation:
- pdf (see Part 2, chapter 5)
Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth:
Supplemental:
- Jonah and the Whale: A Dream for Our Time This Jungian Life podcast
- DRAGON: The Archetypal Monster and Ally Within This Jungian Life podcast
- Lecture on Abraham Maslow The Jonah Complex
Extracts:
- "Yes, as every one knows, meditation and water are wedded for ever." (Moby-Dick, 1)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
9 attendees
Past events
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